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  • What does “Not Normal” mean?

    The not normal ? icon does not seem to provide any additional information. I agree with analysis but just want to figure out why this hive feels not right. The analysis show that this hive has 2.7% Queenless, 17.3% Varroa, 0% Africanized, 7.6% SHB, 11.5 Foul Brood, 1.6 Nosema, 12.9 Failing, and a whooping 44.5% Not Normal. Currently it has 3 deep and one honey super - 4 boxes total. It’s the most aggressive hive I have. Although the brood frames themselves look normal - I’ve found brood frame on top honey super which is highly unusual as they are normally in middle or bottom. I had to remove the queen excluder as they wouldn’t move up (my other 2 hives did fine with queen excluders). It has a lot of bees and visually looks strong, but my instinct tells me that it’s not right - I just can’t figure out what’s wrong with it.
    This is my experimental hive. Storm blew down one of my hives in the winter. The queen survived but there was only 1 full frame of bees left in Feb, not enough to survive. I combined it with a queen-less dying hive with about 4 frames of bee left. I didn’t do newspaper or other methods of combining hives - I simply put one box on top of another (lazy). I figured even if they stronger hive killed the queen and her workers, there was now wet brood for them to create a new queen and several additional frames of capped brood hatching soon.

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    I was just about to ask the same question. My best hive has already produced 60 pounds of honey and I should get that much more easily before the end of the season. I have two brood boxes and three honey supers. All of the readings were really good except for a 41.1% not normal. Is that because it's such an outstanding hive :) or is there something else going on?

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    • #3
      Not normal means not normal. Each bar is the probability from 1-100% that a factor exists, based on pattern-matching of colony sounds to known sounds. Not normal means that there's something different from what is currently in the app's recognizable sound profiles. Not normal could be a dead colony, or a poor quality sound recording, or lots of outside noise, or a very aggressive colony (which tend to be noisy). It's not normal. Doesn't mean it's sick or diseased, But it doesn't fit the normal sound profile.

      Also, if the Not Normal is 40%, that means that the app decided that the odds of it not being a normal colony are 40%. Think of flipping a coin. What would 50% indicate?
      Last edited by Jerry Bromenshenk; 09-19-2019, 09:40 AM.
      The information provided by the Bee Health Guru is not intended to provide solutions to problems. It is given as a suggestion only. A multiplicity of factors could be impacting the health of your bees. We are not responsible for any health issues of your bees, including death, swarming, colony collapse, or issues arising from treatments as a result of any suggestions provided by the Bee Health Guru smartphone app, the Bee Health Guru team, or any answers posted in the accompanying BeeHealth.Guru online forum.

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      • #4
        > I'll write up a full explanation of the bars.

        I too am wondering what the bars mean and what the percentage means. Why is this not explained? Does 20% not normal mean 80% chance that it's normal? I got that reading in my room. My room is 80% a normal hive?

        Also, for hive #15 it showed 41% Failing colony and 30% not normal but when I did the test again 10 minutes later, it showed 16% failing colony, 38% not normal. It went from failing to not failing in ten minutes?

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        • #5
          I’m wondering what the 2 lawn mowers I hear in the distance read as? Really, though, I had hope that one of the bars would relate to swarm preparation.

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          • #6
            I know you are busy with development but do you have any timeline for when the explanation of the bar percentages will be available. Thanks

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            • #7
              I have answered this in other Forums, and I will now give this a priority. We had to scramble to get everything ready for COLOSS and Apimondia, including getting out some preliminary maps based on files received.
              The information provided by the Bee Health Guru is not intended to provide solutions to problems. It is given as a suggestion only. A multiplicity of factors could be impacting the health of your bees. We are not responsible for any health issues of your bees, including death, swarming, colony collapse, or issues arising from treatments as a result of any suggestions provided by the Bee Health Guru smartphone app, the Bee Health Guru team, or any answers posted in the accompanying BeeHealth.Guru online forum.

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              • #8
                I’ve resolved my not normal hive problem, this hive read in August: 2.7% Queenless, 17.3% Varroa, 0% Africanized, 7.6% SHB, 11.5 Foul Brood, 1.6 Nosema, 12.9 Failing, and a whooping 44.5% Not Normal. The issue was zombie bees, mite (25 count by Sept) and Africanized! Hottest hive in our area as affirmed by another beekeeper of 20plus years who’ve only seen this reaction from Africanized hives in SoCal (Africanized hive in NorCal are rare).

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